Monday, July 5, 2010

Venus-Chiron in the Eighth, or naked on love's threshing floor


But if in your fear you would seek only love's peace and love's pleasure,
Then it is better for you that you cover your nakedness and pass out of love's threshing-floor,
Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh,
but not all of your laughter,
and weep, but not all of your tears.

~ From The Prophet by Khalil Gibran

The position of Venus in the natal chart, together with the aspects it makes to other celestial bodies, offer a snapshot of the native's relationship patterns, as well as insight into their self-love and self-worth.

Or lack thereof.

As Saturn prepares to move into Libra again later this month, relationships and how we tackle them are once more to be highlighted.

If we have been less than able to maintain healthy one-on-one boundaries in the past, or placed unrealistic expectations on significant others, if our personal ties have been power struggles, breeding grounds for resentment or generally a vale of tears, this transit of Saturn, which will last till October 2012, is a window of opportunity to revisit, shed or refine such patterns.

No less for myself, as I continue to be single, and weigh up the cost of ever being partnered again.

With my natal Sun in the Seventh House of partnerships, ties to a significant other are always of major importance. But I must confess that, a year on from my last break-up, there are definite benefits to being solo.

For one thing, there's a welcome lack of having to compromise on important personal interests and activities which the other may have little time (or respect) for. A blissful ease in not having to expend effort and take on the stress of defending positions - intellectual, spiritual or ideological - which clash with the 'beloved's' own.

Plus you never have to worry about your future in-laws, or feel bad that your sleeping patterns are a less-than-perfect match to your partner's. Or that they earn more/less than you do.

However.

As someone whose natal Venus is conjunct Chiron in the Eighth House, despite the pain (Chiron) associated with relationships, and the feeling always of having to earn, or be 'good enough' for love (Venus square Saturn) or the constant anxiety of being annihilated by the beloved's possible rejection (Venus-Chiron opposite Pluto), there is a certain raw quality of longing, that I wouldn't exchange for any amount of suffering.

Yes, in my case, there is an exaggerated romanticism involved (read about the mixed blessing of Venus trine Neptune here), but the transforming depths (Eighth House) of the longing to merge with the beloved, that passionate yearning for total union, the unrelenting need for love, albeit one that brings with it profound wounding (Chiron) - which ultimately brings the cool relief of wisdom - well... it's a dynamic that is ultimately very precious to me.

No one can pine for that union of souls or nurture a divine discontent like a Pisces Sun. Especially one whose Venus-Chiron lie in the mysterious Eighth.




A modified version of the image above was originally taken from this site.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

I feel it too. Venus in Pisces in 7th chiron in Aries 8th and pluto in Libra in 1st. not an exact match but close. very similar feelings.

The Ninth Immortal said...

Hey there,

Thanks so much for dropping by. Venus in Pisces in the 7H eh? I'll bet your dreams of the Other, and your yearning for that transcendent union, are beautiful indeed...

Ninth

ND said...

I totally agree with you. I have Venus & Chiron in cancer & the 8th house & conjunct.In fact I have a chart full of 8th house & 2nd house.
I do long for love, some sort of perfect love; Yet, I know that's not possible.. Great post!
Nailah D

Unknown said...

Hello,

I also have Chiron and Venus in my eighth house and my sun in Pisces in the seventh house...?!!!

I am curious to hear more!

Anonymous said...

Aries sun in my 7th, Chiron and Venus in Taurus in 8th house. Venus opposite Pluto and Saturn. I feel like my purpose is to help others find happiness in their relationships but I will never find it for myself. Most people I break up with go on to find their soulmate. I mean, I'm happy to help but what about me, you know?

Unknown said...

O have this exact placement- I would love to talk if you could.. email is Talcha.leoda@yahoo.com

Also, I’m my stellium (Saturn,Neptune,Uranus all retrograde in Capricorn 2nd house) return. Scorpio rising, Pluto/Scorpio retrograde in 12th house. I had a spontaneous out of body/near death/ kundalini last year- this then, my ENTIRE life, not only emotionally, but physically was absolutely ripped away from my dead cold hands.. what’s going on is real, and it’s almost like I want to refuse it.. but can not because I am on a journey of healing. I’d love to speak more to you about it.

- thank you so much for sharing.. I wasn’t finding anything for awhile on this specific aspect.. man oh man. Wishing healing for you as well dear.

-Talcha

Luka Višnikar said...

Hi Talcha!

I've had pretty similar experience with kundalini. If you feel to, you can write me on luka.visnikar@gmail.com or facebook. It would be nice to talk about it.

oak1day said...

Me too!

Anonymous said...

Hi Tacha, I have the exact same
placements!! I haven’t had a kundalini awakening but I am on my healing/awakening journey. I wonder if you have a good relationship with your parents?

Anonymous said...

I am so late on responding. I am so sorry I never saw this before. I am unable to get into old email listed here from 2019. LUKE I WILL email you. And as for your question, anonymous... I actually was in foster care and went through an enormous amount of abuse. I was able to genuinely forgive and let go.